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April 14th, 2001

Arrow Keys! @ 02:12 am

Current Mood: cheerful

I have arrow keys! Woohoo! Viper continues to kick ass, also.

I had a date tonight, which was fun. She's a poet (the real kind, not the "I wrote a few poems when I was 12, so I'll call myself an artiste" kind), which I have a lot of respect for.

I suck. I have LOTS of homework for the next week. It's gonna be painful. And how. But I'm totally looking forward to
a) the trip home for R&R and the family reunion
b) getting my driver's license (my new one...I've been a licensed driver for about 6 years)
c) getting my new C++ books...I love C++
d) celebrating the end of the quarter with Bart (and maybe Liz)
e) starting the new research project this summer. We have ten brand new Intel machines in a lab for just my research group of like 5 people (we'll probably have some undergraduate summer interns helping), and we're going to be doing like a hyper-intelligent mod for unreal tournament or something. Very cool.
 
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From:megan
Date:April 13th, 2001 11:24 pm (UTC)

f)

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you got to talk to me (this should be a highlight)

hehe
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From:hawk
Date:April 14th, 2001 12:02 am (UTC)

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I'd agree, except that I _got_ to talk to you. _getting_ to talk to you would be something to look forward to, but that was past tense when I wrote this. ;)
From:veloso
Date:April 14th, 2001 08:55 am (UTC)
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Arrow keys! Wow, someone decided that those toy keyboards would be useful if there were arrow keys!



Actually, some of my co-workers swear by those keyboards. I can't stand them. I have real trouble typing on one of those ergonomic split-down-the-middle keyboards. I'm very used to the ol' fashioned 101 keyboard layout (and I say that because I'm always hitting the Windows keys by accident). I can't even stand it when they put backslash in the wrong place.

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From:hawk
Date:April 14th, 2001 11:33 am (UTC)
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just in case there's confusion, I don't think the HHL keyboards qualify as "ergonomic", strictly speaking. And your co-workers are correct to swear by them. They rule. ;)
From:veloso
Date:April 14th, 2001 01:36 pm (UTC)
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No confusion. My brain was jumping from spot to spot and I just didn't tie the two unrelated thoughts together in the text.



I pretty much can't use ANY non-standard keyboard.

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From:hawk
Date:April 14th, 2001 01:47 pm (UTC)
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really? What would you define as 'standard'? 'cause I can't use win-keyboards or mac-keyboards, but the standard *nix-keyboards work dandy. And this board is more or less a standard *nix...just remaps the f-keys and stuff like 'home' and 'end'. Oh, yeah, and no number pad. But who the hell wants one of those things, anyway? Unless you happen to be an accountant, in which case god pity you. :)
From:veloso
Date:April 14th, 2001 03:21 pm (UTC)
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By standard I mean the Win keyboards, and while your point that there are many different types of keyboards is taken, I think it's fair to call the 101/104-key keyboard family "standard" since they probably outnumber all other keyboard types by a huge margin.

I actually checked out the keyboard layout and it was as reasonable as you could possibly expect for a 64 (+/- 3, I might be a few off) key keyboard. But there were a few double-key strokes I suspect would drive me nuts, like the Win key and caps lock (and backspace!!). (Oh, and don't dis the Win key. If you're running a Windows OS, it's very useful... win-r, win-f, and win-m are shortcuts I use several times a day.)

And the numeric keyboard is sometimes very useful. If I find that I'm going to type a number more than 5 or 6 digits long, I always go to the keypad. (This happens more than you might think; phone numbers and credit card numbers are two prime candidates.)

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From:hawk
Date:April 14th, 2001 03:38 pm (UTC)

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I'm not dissing the windows key. The web page is deceptive. The HHL2 has windows keys...you don't have to hold function to get them...you can even choose which keys are alt and which ones are windows by setting a dip switch, but they're always both there.

Do you USE the caps lock key? I always have to remap Caps Lock to control to avoid going postal on my computer. That's like the main selling point of the HH series: "No CAPS LOCK! Control key where god intended!" Heh. If you love caps lock, and demand that your control be below your shift...well...has MS got a deal for you!

I use the win key all the time on my windows machines as well. And what's really cool is when you plug the HH into a non-windows machine, the 'win' keys morph to option or diamond, or whatever is appropriate. Very cool.

As to the number pad, if you like it, then the HH series may not be for you. But I hate the damn thing. All the num pad does for me is force me to hold my hands off center when I put my keyboard in my lap. :( And I claim further that the number pad is doomed to slow you down for the same reason that the mouse is. I touch type numbers nearly as well as letters. Saves energy.

:)

and besides, you can't glissando numbers on the numpad:

23456789034567892345678345678

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From:veloso
Date:April 14th, 2001 04:25 pm (UTC)
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I guess, all told, we're not that far apart.

The fact that keys are remappable by dip switches is comforting. You didn't address one of my biggest concerns, that backspace is a two-key combo! (I was hoping that this was a unix-ism, since on most unix systems 'delete' seems to mean what 'backspace' means on Windows. This was a big annoyance when dialing in to my university's systems back when I was in school; I eventually told my terminal emulator to lie about what keys I was pressing.)

OTOH, when I thought about it, I realized I don't use caps lock very much at all. I'm so used to it being there that the very idea of it NOT being there seems wrong. But a little rational thought makes me think control wouldn't be so bad there.

Also, I don't use my numeric keypad so much that I'd feel like I was missing something huge without it. Still, it IS useful, and I'm not entirely sure what you GAIN from a Happy Hacker keyboard that would make it worth giving the pad up. It always struck me as "the quality of a laptop keyboard combined with the portability of a desktop system", or something.

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From:hawk
Date:April 14th, 2001 05:05 pm (UTC)
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Another dip switch turns delete into a backspace. I am irritated that doing that does NOT give you a fn-BS -> del mapping, but you still have fn-` -> del, so it's not a big deal. I set it to backspace. Unix generally understands BS as delete, so that works well. And the rare things that don't understand BS as delete don't seem to understand 'del' either. I usually have to use C-h...so no loss. The problem there isn't unix...it's the terminal emulation, which is always problematic. You have fewer abstract keys available to you when you're at a terminal then when you're physically in front of a machine, generally. A nuisance, but one unrelated to which keyboard you use. If you ever have to do remote work on unix, I HIGHLY recommend PuTTY. It rocks. Go to google and search for putty. It's the first site that pops up.

The HH keyboard is much nicer than any laptop keyboard I've used. It has full size keypitch, and yet is still as small as a laptop board. It is fully portable, and you can buy a carrying case for it. I carry it around in my backpack, along with my laptop. It's USB, so I can plug it in to just about anything, including my PS2. :)

The idea behind the HH board is the same idea behind programs like vi and emacs. You should never have to take your hands any further from home row than absolutely necessary. So it puts EVERYTHING within easy reach of home row.

The reality is that if you are more used to windows than unix, you're probably not going to instantly love the HH boards. They are intended for linux/unix/bsd users. I believe they are exceedingly well designed for all environments, but, for example, if you're used to having the control key in the corner, it would be odd to have it get up and move on you. It's a documented fact that having the control in the *nix position is easier on your hands, though, and if you use emacs or vi or something where you're going to be hitting it/holding it down a lot, it makes a BIG difference in your longevity at the keyboard.

Advantages/disadvantages of keyboards are generally subtle. I mean things like 'dvorak' aside, with keyboards it's the little things that count. IMHO the HH line gets more of the little things right than any other board I've used, throws far less extraneous crap at you than other boards (the sparcstations at my school have function keys above, number pad and motion keys to the right of, and a whole set of keys like 'paste' 'cut' 'copy' 'front' to the left of the main set of 60 keys. WTF? I'm never going to hit those keys, why the hell are they there? I'd rather put another book and a cup of coffee on the table, thanks), has a tiny footprint on either my lap or my desk, and is completely portable, both in terms of carrying it around and in terms of plugging it in. It ain't perfect, but the HHL2 is a hell of a lot closer to perfect than the HHL1 was/is, and what few flaws it has are minor in comparison with any other keyboard I've had to use, relative to my personal tastes.
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From:drgrim
Date:April 14th, 2001 10:28 am (UTC)

whoah

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"..and we're going to be doing like a hyper-intelligent mod for unreal tournament or something. Very cool."
Damn man...that sound friggin awesome.
Wish I had the wattage ( sic Brainpower) to tackle that sort o thing.
Sound like uber fun.


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From:hawk
Date:April 14th, 2001 11:35 am (UTC)

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Ayup. Now if I can juuuust survive till May...

...that she might be a sufficient reason for young Candide

and he for her